Factor 9 Triathlon Coaching

G, Gordo, Gordon

January 7, 2008 · 5 Comments

Quick post,

If you have not surfed Slowtwitch lately then I recommend reading this article:  http://www.slowtwitch.com/Interview/The_musings_of_Gordo_Byrn_169.html

That article is an interview with Gordon Byrn.  For those of you busy training, I pulled out the important parts:

“After an athlete has coped with massive volume over a series of days, an Ironman becomes “merely” a single-day event. Emotionally, all of us have to deal with being emotionally destroyed at times. It is the best way that we know to prepare for the challenges of Ironman. There are physiological risks involved in this sort of training. It’s not far off what Peter did when he used to prepare for Hawaii (we eat a bit more).

The first week of the camp will see us complete a minimum of 21,000 meters of swimming, 1,000 kilometers of cycling and 70 kilometers of running. We will race once, or twice, a day and finish the camp with an “uphill” triathlon which ends at the summit of a Kiwi mountain.”

I am not sure Epic Camp is the “best way” to prepare for an Ironman.  There are many great athlete’s that do well without an Epic Camp in their program.  However, it is a good way to prepare in my opinion.  And, it may be the best way to break through a plateau.  I personally like doing 10-15 days of big volume to prepare.  But, I have also cooked myself doing too much.  It wasn’t too much volume but putting in too many hard efforts while I was doing the volume.  So, if you do an Epic Camp you have to be careful not to turn it into your tour de France.  Save your hardest effort for you Ironman.  You also need to be in great shape (big training build prior to the camp or years of solid training under your belt).  I have seen a few good athlete’s end up with overuse injuries that could have been prevented.

Swim 18-22K, Bike 300-500K, Run 50-80K.” Even if you are focusing on going very fast, you need a period of sustained aerobic volume to prepare your body to train like a champion. “Arthur Lydiard’s advice — Speed is the result of stamina.”

I could not agree more.  Multiple weeks around those volume’s needs to be the backbone of any triathlon program.  If an athlete is not ready for that volume, then their training should start teaching them to handle such volumes.  There are many ways to play it and it really depends on the type of athlete, their lifestyle, their history and their goals. Which brings me to the next point and one quote that I was happy to see Gordo include.  You see, Gordo has been an avid internet writer for years.  I first starting reading his stuff in 2004.  Even then, he was a little one sided.  He was very volume/volume/volume and steady/steady/steady orientated in his training even for those who want to go really fast.  It was not till a few years later that he started incorporating more speed or threshold workouts in his advice and I guess he started to realize the advantages of having more than one protocol in his repertoire.  I have always felt that to be your absolute best you will need steady volume and intense training somewhere in your build up to an Ironman.  There are also times for very easy training and very fast training.  There is no such thing as a magic protocol.  Your protocol should vary but evolve over time.  Here is what he said: 

“When I started coaching, I only had one philosophy, one tool, for my clients. As a novice coach, I could only see one way.”“I don’t have a single philosophy, per se. What I have learned is a range of approaches that can be used depending on the athlete’s goals, experience and background.”

If you are using a coach, make sure they understand training and that there are a variety of different ways to reach different goals.  If you are self-coaching then read up and incorporate different philosophies in your program at different times of year (or across multiple years).  Tie them together with logic and reason.

—Scott

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5 responses so far ↓

  • Paul Fleuren // January 7, 2008 at 3:50 pm | Reply

    Thanks for sharing your thoughts on the Gordo article.

    Your’s and his are both good reads.

    I have always believed you need to do at least 2 x IM’s (in terms of volume) to get into that highly adaptative phase specific to the IM event.

    ie 10k swimming, 360k riding, 84k running as benchmark or minimum standards. Which ends up being approximately 20-24hrs PW.

    Thats where I’m heading anyway and it is certainly paying off big time.

    Cheers
    Paul

  • Scott McMillan // January 7, 2008 at 4:40 pm | Reply

    Hey Paul – good to hear from you. That is an interesting way to think of IM training. 2X IM per week as minimum standard to see solid improvements. I agree, of course, how that gets placed in a program can vary depending on the athlete’s lifestyle.

    Thanks for the comment.

    —Scott

  • samuelfsmith // January 8, 2008 at 9:10 pm | Reply

    At what times and with what frequency does one attempt these 2X IM weeks? Once, twice a summer … every week for 3 months heading into IM. Grasshopper wants to know Sensei!

  • Scott McMillan // January 8, 2008 at 9:45 pm | Reply

    Hopper’s like you need to build into it. Consecutive 20hr weeks take some doing as you know by how your life changed when you hit a 15hr week. I like to challenge people but I do not beleive in being stupid about it.

    I generally prescribe these weeks at the end of pre-season training before doing some more instense work OR doing them in the IM specific phase. I would try to get in 3-5 solid weeks before switching things up again. That is for someone fairly new to IM training.

    Vets – they will do much more if they have the time.

    —Scott

  • Paul Fleuren // January 13, 2008 at 5:08 pm | Reply

    I like to work on a 3 week cycle with a 6 week block.
    For example,
    week 1: run focus (84km)
    week 2: bike focus (360km)
    week 3: swim focus (10-15km)
    repeat
    My focus discipline will generally involve increasing my frequnecy to meet the volume. i don’t really increase the length of sessions too much. This means I will generally cut back on the frequency in one of the other disciplines ( I usually select the strongest to cut back on.
    Week 2 is always my toughest week in terms of volume because of the bike focus. I try to carry over as much of my week 1 run volume int week 2. Week 3 is a slight reduction in volume with an increase in swimming (It serves as a recovery week but with a swim emphasis).

    Does that make sense?

    As a working class age grouper this is the best way for my to juggle what I consider to be optimal volume

    Paul

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